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Lions Rugby Team – Who are the likely contenders for the Test team in South Africa? Who will be the Lions Rugby Team captain? Read on and add your personal choices in the comments.
My choice at present ( I am never 100% decided and I am even more fickle with my team selections than Eamonn Dunphy!)
1. Gethin Jenkins (Wales)
2. Jerry Flannery (Ireland)
3. Ewan Murray (Scotland)
4. Donnacha O’ Callaghan (Ireland)
5. Paul O’Connell (Ireland) Captain
6. Ryan Jones (Wales)
7. David Wallace (Ireland)
8. Jamie Heaslip (Ireland)
9. Mike Blair (Scotland)
10. Ronan O’Gara (Ireland)
11. Shane Williams (Wales)
12. Ricky Flutey (England)
13. Brian O’Driscoll (Ireland)
14. Ugo Monye (England)
15. Lee Byrne (Wales)
16. Matthew Rees (Wales)
17. Adam Jones (Wales)
18. Alun-Wyn Jones (Wales)
19. Denis Leamy (Ireland)
20. Mike Phillips (Wales)
21. Stephen Jones (Wales)
22. Luke Fitzgerald (Ireland)
Martin Williams ?
PLEASE ADD YOUR CHOICES AND EXPLAIN WHY I HAVE GOT IT ALL WRONG.
Jenkins, Hartley, Jones, O Connell, Lawes/Gray, Sean O Brien, Warburton, Heaslip, Phillips, Hook, Bowe, Roberts, O’Driscoll, Ashton, Foden.
Obviously just my opinion, feel free to discuss.
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All British people are obsessed with lions. As are Australians. They just like the way they sound when they say "loiyun".
Why do British Commentators insist on referring to the British AND IRISH Lions as the British Lions?
I’ve noticed this a lot with British rugby commentators and within wanting to stir up any shit it seriously pisses me off. Need we keep reminding you guys that Ireland became independednt in the 1920′s? Seriously? Are they just trying to insult Irish people by doing this? Do they really want to alienate Irish people from supporting the Lions brand, given the contribution Irish players have made to the lions over the years? Because that’s what’s going to happen!
Oh — I can just hear some of our SH colleagues chuckling as they think to themselves "B&I Lions? Only one of the three from the bok’s last year, and no tour wins since ’97. Why would anyone care what they are called?" Of course that second game last year could have gone either way.
But honestly, I myself have not noticed the trend you mention. In my experience Premiership or Magners League commentators almost invariably refer to either the British and Irish Lions, or just "the Lions". And I, for one, do notice the ommission the odd time that it occurs.
I think those in the rugby community, both in Britain and abroad, are very familiar with the unique composition and proud history of the Irish Rugby Football Union. Nor do I believe that anyone is anxious to minimize the Irish contribution to the Lions.
I think you have simply happened to have overheard more than your share of the odd isolated incident. People do make honest (albeit silly) mistakes.
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Doing some research and would just like to know how long those lions at the back entrance of the British Museum have been there and if they were originally from CHINA!
There are carved stone lions, having crossed front paws, by Sir George Frampton – part of the Burnet Tait scheme for the Edward VII Galleries. Date from just before WW1.
Also, when was the last time the B&I Lions actually won a tour? I’m sure they lost against New Zealand.
Odd timing to this question, given that the Springboks took two of of three from the Lions just last summer. They certainly weren’t crushed, just beaten by a better team. In particular, the second game in the series could have gone either way. It will be Australia’s turn in the next tour (2013), but that isn’t for another three years.
Anyway, in the modern professional era is unrealistic to expect the B&I Lions to beat any established Tier One national side in a multi-game series. The are a collection of fine brilliant individual players but they are still individuals. The squad is essentially a "throw-together" one which only trains and plays together for six to eight weeks every four years. But it takes a full year of training to turn a collection of individual players into a TEAM. It is a wonderful publicity and fund raising tour for the sport, but it is not serious rugby.
Same factors apply to the SH powers. If a hypothetical SANZAR squad (organized on the same basis – six seeks out of every four years) were to tour the home nations and/or France, they would do no better, for the same reasons. They would win the odd game, but would not be consistent enough to do it on a regular basis.
To answer the other part of your question, the last time the Lions won a test series was their most recent (excepting last year) tour against the Springboks in 1997. A last gasp of the amateur era.
Australians call themselves after an Australian animal, the South Africans after a South African animal, but the British are named after an African animal
If their players have similar organs to lions and are as strong, as someone below has bizarrely claimed, does that mean they could physically fight off a real lion?
I think the better question to ask would be. Why do people pay massive money travelling around the world to watch them lose ? Seriously when was the last time they won a series ? …1997 vs SA i think
Heres a link explaining their history http://www.lionsrugby.com/history/potted_history.php
It’s got nothing to do with Richard the Lionheart or Ice age lions in Britain or Willie John wrestling a lion or whatever other hair brain ideas people come up with.
Wallabies = They liked to jump
Springboks = They did not know about Jack in the Boks
All Blacks = Lets not go there ( ask Andy )