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		<title>Comment on Where can i find the Lions Rugby jersey on My account? (attachment on profile)? by The RiDdLeR</title>
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		<dc:creator>The RiDdLeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try googling british lions rugby shirt&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
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		<title>Comment on Is Super Rugby getting &#34;watered down&#34;? by Iago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes. But you're being short-sighted here. The extra franchises will develop talent and it will lead to growth of the game in Oz, I hope.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes. But you&#8217;re being short-sighted here. The extra franchises will develop talent and it will lead to growth of the game in Oz, I hope.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Super Rugby getting &#34;watered down&#34;? by Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Possibly in the short term, but I think it's necessary to expand for long term growth. There may be some silliness in the next few years, but we need to do something to stop our talent all heading North for the big bucks. Extra Super spots to play for and a chance to show the national selectors your stuff could be one of the things that keeps young talent here in the south.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly in the short term, but I think it&#8217;s necessary to expand for long term growth. There may be some silliness in the next few years, but we need to do something to stop our talent all heading North for the big bucks. Extra Super spots to play for and a chance to show the national selectors your stuff could be one of the things that keeps young talent here in the south.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Super Rugby getting &#34;watered down&#34;? by Taraboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taraboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Short answer yes. Not one country currently could do another franchise justice. The Melbourne team is going to severely dent any chance any team from Aussie ever winning the competition  again. NZ and SA could field another team IF they could keep the wolves from the north pinching our players but unless some Russian billionaire pumps massive money into our game that will not happen.
The problem that NZ and SA have is the good players want to play in the good teams. Look at the players the Bulls and Crusaders have got if their depth was shared around a little would the Highlanders and Lions be so pathetic ? This is only going to get worse in NZ with Dagg and Thomson wanting to leave the Highlanders for the Crusaders
The only option for expansion is a rich team that could attract Northern Hemisphere players..... Japan is the only option but with the extra travel and greed of  the SA and Aus boards do not hold your breath. 

ps The Stagg i have just watched an interview with Pieter De Villiers he really is a complete idiot. Apparently now SA lost in NZ because the world cup organisers  have got in the ear of the refs to help NZ out. Dubious reffing is one thing a conspiracy is another sack the side show clown before you guys regret it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short answer yes. Not one country currently could do another franchise justice. The Melbourne team is going to severely dent any chance any team from Aussie ever winning the competition  again. NZ and SA could field another team IF they could keep the wolves from the north pinching our players but unless some Russian billionaire pumps massive money into our game that will not happen.<br />
The problem that NZ and SA have is the good players want to play in the good teams. Look at the players the Bulls and Crusaders have got if their depth was shared around a little would the Highlanders and Lions be so pathetic ? This is only going to get worse in NZ with Dagg and Thomson wanting to leave the Highlanders for the Crusaders<br />
The only option for expansion is a rich team that could attract Northern Hemisphere players&#8230;.. Japan is the only option but with the extra travel and greed of  the SA and Aus boards do not hold your breath. </p>
<p>ps The Stagg i have just watched an interview with Pieter De Villiers he really is a complete idiot. Apparently now SA lost in NZ because the world cup organisers  have got in the ear of the refs to help NZ out. Dubious reffing is one thing a conspiracy is another sack the side show clown before you guys regret it.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Super Rugby getting &#34;watered down&#34;? by blm</title>
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		<dc:creator>blm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of other things to consider.

1.  What would be a viable option outside of the SANZAR trio to base a Super-whatever franchise? A Pacific Island team has been tried a couple of times and always failed.  Not surprising -- they simply don't have the population base, infrastructure or GDP to support a team.  I don't think that Japan (as yet) is a serious option.

The Super-15 right now already has horrific problems caused by the travel distances, time changes and associated jet lag.  It is so bad that not so long ago the South African teams were seriously exploring the option of joining an enlarged Magners League.  The travel distances would be no worse, and at least they are in the same time zones.

It didn't happen, but it still leaves the question -- where could a team based outside of Australia/South Africa/New Zealand possibly be based.  Quick answer -- nowhere.

2.  On a more positive note, remember -- there is soon going to be an influx of quality Argentinian players into the Super Rugby franchises when that country joins the tri-nations competition.  This will be a rising tide which will lift all the boats/teams.  Possibly enough players to support one or two new franchises with no reduction in quality.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of other things to consider.</p>
<p>1.  What would be a viable option outside of the SANZAR trio to base a Super-whatever franchise? A Pacific Island team has been tried a couple of times and always failed.  Not surprising &#8212; they simply don&#8217;t have the population base, infrastructure or GDP to support a team.  I don&#8217;t think that Japan (as yet) is a serious option.</p>
<p>The Super-15 right now already has horrific problems caused by the travel distances, time changes and associated jet lag.  It is so bad that not so long ago the South African teams were seriously exploring the option of joining an enlarged Magners League.  The travel distances would be no worse, and at least they are in the same time zones.</p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t happen, but it still leaves the question &#8212; where could a team based outside of Australia/South Africa/New Zealand possibly be based.  Quick answer &#8212; nowhere.</p>
<p>2.  On a more positive note, remember &#8212; there is soon going to be an influx of quality Argentinian players into the Super Rugby franchises when that country joins the tri-nations competition.  This will be a rising tide which will lift all the boats/teams.  Possibly enough players to support one or two new franchises with no reduction in quality.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Is Super Rugby getting &#34;watered down&#34;? by The RiDdLeR</title>
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		<dc:creator>The RiDdLeR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only country capable of fielding an extra side is NZ. Take a look at the worst side of South Africa, the Lions. They are an absolute disgrace and a joke. In contrast the worst in NZ is Otago and they are capable of beating anyone on their day at home.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only country capable of fielding an extra side is NZ. Take a look at the worst side of South Africa, the Lions. They are an absolute disgrace and a joke. In contrast the worst in NZ is Otago and they are capable of beating anyone on their day at home.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do our English Football and Cricket teams have the Three Lions emblem, but the Rugby team a Rose? by Lauren F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this on a website, might help answer :)

The simple answer is that we do not know why it was chosen, but there are three possibilities:
The royal English rose is white and red.  This rose was created to symbolise the marriage between Henry VII (House of Lancaster) and Elizabeth (House of York) and the end of the War of the Roses.  Therefore, the ‘English’ rose is not red, but half red and half white.  However, subsequent monarchs (such as Elizabeth I) continued to be associated with the red rose because they were descended from the House of Lancaster.  So it is the red rose (rather than the red and white rose) which is often, incorrectly, seen as symbolising England or the English monarchy.  Therefore the RFU might have selected the red rose for this reason.
Secondly, Lawrence Sheriff, the founder of Rugby School (where the game started) was presented with a coat of arms by Elizabeth I and in doing so she allowed him to use her red (Lancaster) rose [see above] on the crest.  When he founded Rugby School the new institution based their own coat of arms on his, and so the red rose ended up on the Rugby School crest.  The white kit worn by England was taken from the kit used at Rugby School, so it might be that a symbolic image was also taken from the school crest as a badge.  Even more likely is the possibility that a combination of this connection with Rugby School and the incorrect identification of the red rose as the ‘English’ rose
The third possibility is that the red rose is actually used because it is also the symbol of the county of Lancashire.  Of the subcommittee of men who selected the first England side in 1871, two came from clubs in Lancashire (Liverpool and Manchester).  It is therefore possible that they were also responsible for selecting the England kit (including the red rose).  However, it is highly unlikely that the other RFU Committee members would have accepted such a blatantly regional emblem on the national jersey and they would have reversed such a decision immediately.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://www.rfu.com/microsites/museum/page.aspx?section=140&#38;sectionTitle=Why+a+Rose%3F</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this on a website, might help answer <img src='http://www.lionsrugbyteam.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The simple answer is that we do not know why it was chosen, but there are three possibilities:<br />
The royal English rose is white and red.  This rose was created to symbolise the marriage between Henry VII (House of Lancaster) and Elizabeth (House of York) and the end of the War of the Roses.  Therefore, the ‘English’ rose is not red, but half red and half white.  However, subsequent monarchs (such as Elizabeth I) continued to be associated with the red rose because they were descended from the House of Lancaster.  So it is the red rose (rather than the red and white rose) which is often, incorrectly, seen as symbolising England or the English monarchy.  Therefore the RFU might have selected the red rose for this reason.<br />
Secondly, Lawrence Sheriff, the founder of Rugby School (where the game started) was presented with a coat of arms by Elizabeth I and in doing so she allowed him to use her red (Lancaster) rose [see above] on the crest.  When he founded Rugby School the new institution based their own coat of arms on his, and so the red rose ended up on the Rugby School crest.  The white kit worn by England was taken from the kit used at Rugby School, so it might be that a symbolic image was also taken from the school crest as a badge.  Even more likely is the possibility that a combination of this connection with Rugby School and the incorrect identification of the red rose as the ‘English’ rose<br />
The third possibility is that the red rose is actually used because it is also the symbol of the county of Lancashire.  Of the subcommittee of men who selected the first England side in 1871, two came from clubs in Lancashire (Liverpool and Manchester).  It is therefore possible that they were also responsible for selecting the England kit (including the red rose).  However, it is highly unlikely that the other RFU Committee members would have accepted such a blatantly regional emblem on the national jersey and they would have reversed such a decision immediately.<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://www.rfu.com/microsites/museum/page.aspx?section=140&amp;sectionTitle=Why+a+Rose%3F" rel="nofollow">http://www.rfu.com/microsites/museum/page.aspx?section=140&amp;sectionTitle=Why+a+Rose%3F</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do our English Football and Cricket teams have the Three Lions emblem, but the Rugby team a Rose? by Crusha03</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crusha03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not actually a Rose , Its Red cabbage, Twickers was built on an old cabbage patch hence why its some times so called. LMAO !

Nope sorry you've got me on that one too ??&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not actually a Rose , Its Red cabbage, Twickers was built on an old cabbage patch hence why its some times so called. LMAO !</p>
<p>Nope sorry you&#8217;ve got me on that one too ??<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Why do our English Football and Cricket teams have the Three Lions emblem, but the Rugby team a Rose? by Rori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Youv'e got me on this one!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youv&#8217;e got me on this one!<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on How is South Africa number 2 on the IRB World Ranking ladder if we won both the Tri-nations and the Lions tour? by MB1810</title>
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		<dc:creator>MB1810</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's because of SA's dismal end of year tour last year - they lost a game or 2 and with that handed the nr. 1 ranking back to NZ.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s because of SA&#8217;s dismal end of year tour last year - they lost a game or 2 and with that handed the nr. 1 ranking back to NZ.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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